XenTegra - AVD Monthly + Nerdio

AVD Monthly: February and March Updates

April 25, 2022 XenTegra / Andy Whiteside / Pete Downing Season 1 Episode 15
XenTegra - AVD Monthly + Nerdio
AVD Monthly: February and March Updates
Show Notes Transcript

These sessions discuss the following topics, blogs, and support articles: What's new in Azure Virtual Desktop?

Azure Virtual Desktop updates on a regular basis. This article is where you'll find out about:

  • The latest updates
  • New features
  • Improvements to existing features
  • Bug fixes

This article is updated monthly. Make sure to check back here often to keep up with new updates.

Host: Andy Whiteside
Co-Host: Bill Sutton
Co-Host: Rob Shaw
Co-Host: Greg Roberson


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Andy Whiteside: hi everyone it's a episode 14 and add monthly i'm your host Andy whiteside i've got i've got a good crew with me today bill sudden, who was with me quite often on the citrix podcasts side of things, is with me bill how's it going.

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Bill Sutton: going well Andy how are you out of town, I see.

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Andy Whiteside: I am in a hotel room Chicago with intermittent Internet access it bit me pretty hard on the mechanics podcast a few minutes ago, hopefully, hopefully i'm going to work around at this time.

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Bill Sutton: Okay, good.

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Andy Whiteside: i've got robbed saw with us rob is with Microsoft my rob used to be a add mvp or ninja right now, where they called you guys.

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Robb Shaw: And we were gbs global black belts.

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Andy Whiteside: Global black belt, so I totally totally made that one up on the.

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Robb Shaw: fly sort of some sort of martial arts.

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Andy Whiteside: and rob you have moved on, but you're so gracious enough to join us and talk a bd what's your what's your current role at Microsoft cover.

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Robb Shaw: So still still doing a good bit add as a global black belt now additionally doing some rolls around ABS, as your vmware solutions so being able to run esl on azure so very, very cool and somewhat in tangent to what we've always done, you know, in the vdi row right.

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Andy Whiteside: yeah for sure for sure yeah for those who don't know Robin I go way back, we worked together at citrix.

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Andy Whiteside: Oh, a decade ago a little over.

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Robb Shaw: A while yeah.

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Andy Whiteside: My wife sent a picture of my wife today from seven years ago and we she looked about the same I looked much younger it's.

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it's happening it's happening.

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Andy Whiteside: So we're lucky enough to have Greg roberson with us Greg is with the nerdy yo and you know i've pretty much decided that, in my world add equals 30 plus add because now that i've seen what do can do to make add.

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Andy Whiteside: Even more implementable and manageable and maintainable I just pretty much always want to put two together Greg how's it going.

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Greg groberson@getnerdio.com: it's going great thanks for having me on the webcast give you a little bit of background for for you on myself, as well as X Microsoft employees CSA out of the Dallas location and have done several hundred, if not more, add deployments and.

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Greg groberson@getnerdio.com: has since.

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Greg groberson@getnerdio.com: left at Microsoft i'm over it, and video now doing some work with these guys and showing a lot of value in the environment, with no idea that's for sure.

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Andy Whiteside: So you're probably the perfect person to you know if I were to say, give me give me the elevator pitch as to why do makes add better goes like peanut butter and jelly.

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Andy Whiteside: peanut butter and chocolate together what's what What would you tell me if we had like 12 floors that go up for how to get off and never thought again.

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Greg groberson@getnerdio.com: So quite simply it's really three things ease of deployment so nor do can help you deploy as your virtual desktop either new or existing we can ingest that as well and typically two hours or less heavy up and running, we automate a lot of things.

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Greg groberson@getnerdio.com: all the way from image management to joining as your files to your environment and automated process.

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Greg groberson@getnerdio.com: And then one big aspect for nor do is.

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Greg groberson@getnerdio.com: optimizing your cost from an add perspective, so we have quite a few auto scale capabilities that go above and beyond, some of the scale plans that as your offers.

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Greg groberson@getnerdio.com: directly in the arm environment with the you know some additional flexibility to significantly cut your costs, you know easily 40 50% right out of the gate.

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Greg groberson@getnerdio.com: and shows a lot of value in that area.

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Andy Whiteside: So is this like a used car lot you're trying to tell me you're gonna save me money get this new car.

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Andy Whiteside: it's a i've seen people do it i've heard lots people talk about it, so let me, let me flip that over to rob rob rob you know the nerdy yo guys is what Greg is what he's talking about how much that's.

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Robb Shaw: 100% true, I can tell you, especially.

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Robb Shaw: In organizations, sometimes large organizations, where it's going to be managed by its own work group other places where they just don't they maybe they don't have the azure skills or the vdi skills, I mean it makes it easy, and I can tell you in the EDU space.

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Robb Shaw: We were probably half of the deployments that we did in the EDU space during the Co bit of an epidemic, I would say, more than half of them we leveraged Nordea because most of them just don't have the staff to be able to a build and then be be able to run and maintain.

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Andy Whiteside: And this isn't supposed to be an audio commercial we're going to move on to the January, excuse me February and March updates for maybe a minute, but.

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Andy Whiteside: You know I run into so many shops that are doing virtual desktops and and they're struggling with just making the desktops work right.

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Andy Whiteside: And when you bring in add you have this new monster of a thing that that needs some rounding out.

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Andy Whiteside: And without something like dirty or others but still, we know do in this case, you really just can't even manage the thing much less make all the little stuff look like outlook cash and.

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Andy Whiteside: You know applications that don't like to be virtualized potentially you know you need that helping hand, you know just attacking a hit on a DVD is I don't want to call a suicide, because people do it, but they've got a team of people when they do it like them.

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You know right.

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Andy Whiteside: So the point of this podcast is to talk to Microsoft and audio about what's happening with add and we've got a somewhat short list of things.

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Andy Whiteside: let's start with the February updates going from the bottom up first one is teams optimizations for MAC os now in public preview rob what is teams optimization in general, and why does it need to be enabled for.

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Robb Shaw: yeah if you think about it teams, like a lot of collaborative type solutions they're very chatty they store a lot of data so that they can they can run very smoothly some of that cash becomes.

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Robb Shaw: You know, difficult so there's certainly you know some ways that, in that we run into in vdi realm where we need to redirect personal data into the session.

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Robb Shaw: that's one aspect right, so that it feels like you're on a regular PC that's that's one piece, and we work hand in hand with some of these optimizations with fs logics to store that stuff and bring it back in.

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Robb Shaw: You know, in various connections, the other side of what teams does is that teams is a you know, a communication.

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Robb Shaw: solution, just like we're using here from zoom perspective and putting that in a non persistent environment that lives in azure but the desktop you know that the users connecting from you know, maybe 15 milliseconds away and.

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Robb Shaw: You know they're displaying it differently all of those things become difficult what the team's optimization does is it does kind of a peer to peer synching of that of that audio video channel stream.

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Robb Shaw: So that it can work inside the vdi world by default it's just going to run in the desktop and then deliver the audio and video.

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Robb Shaw: Through the session in optimization world hear from teams what we're talking about is connecting those two channels to the local device that the users on and the vdi session.

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Robb Shaw: and finding that there are codecs and things that allow us and resources to be able to play that on the local endpoint then.

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Robb Shaw: The desktop just gets out of the way and let's teams connection happen peer to peer and the the announcement here is that.

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Robb Shaw: we've enabled this now for MAC os again public preview usually the way public preview works for me add, is about a month later, and then we should be able to have that same thing that today we only have in windows 10 and 11.

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Andy Whiteside: and rob I love that you use the two things when you talked about this that that that usability to make it feel like you're in that non persistent virtual desktop but.

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Andy Whiteside: You know the stuff you need is coming with you from your local device, so you don't feel like a second class user in a non persistent virtual desktop that's often overlooked and then you know you mentioned the teams offloading the protocol.

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Andy Whiteside: And you use that use the term used a measurement of 15 milliseconds usually 15 milliseconds right that's it guys we go excited that's awesome.

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Andy Whiteside: But in this case we're still having to go an extra hop so even at 50 milliseconds if we're trying to do in the virtual desktop.

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Andy Whiteside: You know, got the virtual desktop having to have the power to do it, plus we've got an extra hop that 15 milliseconds even that's noticeable if we don't offload it is that is that what you see.

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Robb Shaw: yeah yeah absolutely and when you say you made fun of my milliseconds and I apologize because i'm used to talking that way from as your connection, you know so yeah instead of saying hundred and 50 you know milliseconds or you know, whatever but yeah we're seeing a lot of.

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Andy Whiteside: Well, and that's the fact you went straight to 150 or hundred 20 or 200 that's when it becomes even weirder.

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Andy Whiteside: When you start talking about you know doing teams and whether or not you can offload it or not, and all of a sudden, it becomes pronounced and very noticeable whether you're doing an inside the desktop the virtual desktop or not.

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Andy Whiteside: i'm Greg from an audio perspective is this just something that you guys get the benefit of and nerdy or, above and beyond things that you guys are doing in order to to make this problem less of an issue.

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Greg groberson@getnerdio.com: So, with the windows side.

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Greg groberson@getnerdio.com: With no do it's a scripted action and that may very well be how it turns out on the MAC side as well and i'm highly a fairly sure that that will get get incorporated.

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Greg groberson@getnerdio.com: As soon as as soon as we can get it in the devil has to get done.

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Andy Whiteside: Well, and that's something to highlight about Nordea tools like Microsoft does what they do and you guys don't want to reinvent the wheel right, but then you take what they do and make it better, more manageable going back to the whole conversation of why you.

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Andy Whiteside: Almost have to have in order to like product if you're going to tackle add unless you got a staff of 10 all with great scripting knowledge to do it yourself.

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Andy Whiteside: Alright next next announcement, here is an assignee and reassigning personal desktops now generally available Robin and go back to you on that one because I have no idea what that means.

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Robb Shaw: yeah you know in traditional.

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Robb Shaw: arm add if i'm going to take up a personal desktop and the rest of the vdi world would call that a persistent desktop and I want to reassign that to another user.

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Robb Shaw: You know today that's that's been very kind of cumbersome to be able to do so now, you know, be able to just kind of take this user point to a different user and now this this this vm becomes there so let's say you had somebody I don't know, maybe.

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Robb Shaw: Maybe an adventure eventually will be good for like machine sharing, but for now I would call it more like a new employee is going to you know take over the resources of a previous.

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Robb Shaw: Employee maybe in some environments that could make sense in some environments what I just said, sounds like a nightmare.

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Robb Shaw: The funny thing here is I would imagine Greg you're probably you know thinking well that's that's something we've kind of been able to do for a while now.

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Greg groberson@getnerdio.com: We have, yes, but it's nice to see it get deployed out of the portal that's for sure.

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Andy Whiteside: yeah yeah.

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Robb Shaw: I think that's a that's a key point for what video does is some things, eventually, you know we may natively you know, create that capability and it.

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Robb Shaw: It might not be as good as the way that dirty Oh, does it already, but even then videos probably doing other things to always.

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Robb Shaw: kind of make the experience better but that's a that's a perfect example of something where if a customer told me, six months ago they needed that that's a that's an earlier discussion.

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Andy Whiteside: it's funny as we're talking through this with raw i'm having a history lesson go through my head, we had we had non persistent and then we have persistent in non persistent and then we had personal, which was like the personal stuff and now.

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Andy Whiteside: Personal is kind of pulled back a little bit and it's more just the making sure your map to the same machine.

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Andy Whiteside: Okay, so, as you pointed out, right, so you have Microsoft adding this to its functionality nerdy has had it for a while and probably more robust and more mature.

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Andy Whiteside: And that's one of the things right again not to just keep bragging on or do constantly but the idea that Microsoft is going to do what they need to to check boxes and make them good enough.

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Andy Whiteside: But if you want it to be functional like you've gotten used to another product that's that's where do kicks in.

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Andy Whiteside: question for you guys, so this is like a you have a non persistent and then you have now a personal in the case of a DVD or add with video how much of that personal is going to be persistent and how much of it can be just a non persistent that's personally matt to the same one or both.

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Greg groberson@getnerdio.com: You know, from an audio perspective it's about a 20% of the amount of the time that we see that maybe a little less than that.

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Greg groberson@getnerdio.com: Even when I was at Microsoft, we saw a big request for.

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Greg groberson@getnerdio.com: That, especially in certain industries.

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Greg groberson@getnerdio.com: And so it's it's big when it's big, but it does kind of hover around the outskirts of the general add environment so.

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Andy Whiteside: So Greg which one, though, the idea that you have a non persistent that's always mapped to the same non persistent or the idea that you have a persistent resident, one that you're always going through and all your data and everything you all your files and everything.

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Greg groberson@getnerdio.com: With nerdy oh it's a little a little bit of both because we've had that capability for quite some time.

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Robb Shaw: Okay yeah I think you know I think Greg, but I think what you said there and made a lot of sense, you know for the general customer most people are going to use persistent vm.

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Robb Shaw: They want to keep as much personal stuff kind of out of it.

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Robb Shaw: Now, when it's developers when it's certain use cases I think it is it's it's critical that you know they get to do it that way, where it's completely persistent.

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Robb Shaw: I think today with container technology for profiles that and and and and office being able to re cash into the session, I think it it really blurs the line as to what's you know what's personally assigned, I guess, in some ways.

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Andy Whiteside: Okay, so the next one here last one for February network data for azure virtual desktop user connections.

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Andy Whiteside: Back to you again, I have no idea what that means.

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Robb Shaw: yeah so you know something that like say in a citrix environment for years, you went without knowing.

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Robb Shaw: hey you know what's my round trip time you know, to know whether the client is the problem, or to know whether there's a server back end issue.

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Robb Shaw: So one of the first places you want to look yes hey what's it round trip time look like in it, you know, for as long as a citrix was around.

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Robb Shaw: That that took a long time before we really had that in you know things like director and whatever where they could see that you know today.

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Robb Shaw: we've kind of had some of those RDP metrics and now we're pulling those into the session so that you can pull those through diagnostic data to know the main one being round trip time for the user session.

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Andy Whiteside: yeah and that goes back to our conversation around latency and 15 verses 150 and user experience and all sudden you're.

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Andy Whiteside: In a hotel and you're getting 600 or maybe on the airplane and you're trying to work gets, six, seven, you know 1300 whatever it is.

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Andy Whiteside: Knowing, knowing that that's the scenario you don't have real virtual machine problems you have network connectivity problems, and then the dreaded disconnects On top of that, now, you really got to have that data exists, something that nerdy was benefiting from already had her.

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Greg groberson@getnerdio.com: it's it's really great to see them getting added into the monitor sato house in because nerdy other does have.

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Greg groberson@getnerdio.com: Not a not an audio directly but with our partnership with paga does have the capability to collect that information.

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Greg groberson@getnerdio.com: and doing it through the portal today with log analytics proper insights it doesn't require those customers to step up to an additional cost with this particular agent so it's great to see that had conway.

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Andy Whiteside: bill sudden you've been hanging out listening to us February that's that's a wrap did you hear anything in there, that makes you more interested in using audio and add together as a way to solve problems.

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Bill Sutton: Well Greg may have said this, but I think that when it comes to the network data for azure virtual desktop I think know do has some.

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Bill Sutton: Some capabilities of getting some of this data from directly from azure as well as through third party third party partner of theirs I think it's upon, though, is that right Greg.

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Greg groberson@getnerdio.com: That is correct, yes.

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Bill Sutton: yeah I thought so based on our discussions before the the other items are are interesting that just demonstrates what what you guys have been saying, which is.

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Bill Sutton: Microsoft continues to up the game and and catch up with some of the capabilities that are available and other products and getting add into the into the higher levels of capability.

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Andy Whiteside: So no I know you've been around great obviously you've been around for a while and, of course, Robin i've been around forever.

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Andy Whiteside: Because Microsoft have a huge benefit here of knowing what the important pieces are they working on, whereas for years and years and years, said, like a citrix did to stumble through the year to year year trying to figure out what's important.

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Greg groberson@getnerdio.com: So funny thing is is nerdy all has a very, very tight relationship with the Microsoft Development Organization on DVD and so quite often we catch wind of it and come out with.

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Greg groberson@getnerdio.com: Having that feature included in or complimenting the feature when it comes out when Microsoft releases it, so we do have that great relationship, and we have a little bit insight and help not only provide feedback but take take feedback from Microsoft on both sides.

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Andy Whiteside: So rob when you think about all the features that have come and gone and say you know, in a citrix world and the time that was spent developing something that's irrelevant now.

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Andy Whiteside: it's like you know I guess so learning to use my analogy here you're learning to identify the modern way versus doing the old way and have to learn the way after years of crashing to the ground, the old way.

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Robb Shaw: yeah.

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Robb Shaw: yeah yeah you definitely you know some of the things we do today are things that you know we're we're you know we're kind of a sunrise before.

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Robb Shaw: As far as features that you've already predated and I think you know, we see that with with video as well.

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Robb Shaw: Some of the features, you know are features that they've had in their core product that.

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Robb Shaw: You know, have come out natively but and then sometimes it's something like like being able to have it on trip trip times from the from the client, so the client needed a kind of a listener.

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Robb Shaw: I mean the second back comes out a lot of times you know nerdy oh seems to be kind of testing those features out a month ahead of time, so it's interesting sometimes some of the new features Greg you could probably talk to these things better than I can, and a lot of cases.

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Andy Whiteside: So guys the next section here, we talked about march updates and here's what changed in March i'm reading this word for word the way they say it number one fs logics version.

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Andy Whiteside: is now generally available, you know because I still run into people that don't understand the fs logics history which I guess they shouldn't if they don't eat sleep breathe this stuff.

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Andy Whiteside: But the fs logics pieces and entitlement for anyone who own the what oh 365 license the three or higher gets.

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Andy Whiteside: fs logics.

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Greg groberson@getnerdio.com: yeah yeah I thought it was maybe the M 365 license.

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Andy Whiteside: I want to say it's down to the oh 365 for outlook.

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Andy Whiteside: Can you guys tell me I don't know it's.

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Robb Shaw: it's it's so it's em 365 but that, but some of the names change, you know, sometimes it's he.

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Robb Shaw: entitlements sometimes it's G entitlements, depending on whether their government or education or whatever.

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Robb Shaw: But there's there's a variety of different ways that you get entitlements to to profile, as well as web they they basically go hand in hand if you're entitled to one you have the other, and that includes the ability to use.

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Robb Shaw: fs logics in an on premise environment if you needed to do that as well.

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Andy Whiteside: Okay, so to wrap this up, I probably.

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Andy Whiteside: Talk through it and didn't make make it make sense, I always thought it was oh 365 or him 365.

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Andy Whiteside: What Greg highlighted and rob double down on the idea of him, if you have in 365 now we are a three or higher if you have the right to w TV add about one old school.

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Andy Whiteside: Then you have the right to fs logics with the underlying Microsoft pieces for for in the cloud, as well as on premises wherever that on premises right.

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Andy Whiteside: Correct yeah I mean to me in the lunch, I had today here i'm at Chicago, which is a client that they're all about login times.

00:21:01.320 --> 00:21:14.610
Andy Whiteside: outlook cash and you know they were talking about fs logics but they didn't really understand the history of how it it's really you know evolved, for one reason was to solve that whole you know outlook cash and how to do it the right way in a supportive way.

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Robb Shaw: yeah yeah absolutely that I think that was a big critical component for the Web solution to was to have a solid profile answer.

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Andy Whiteside: Greg on the video side, he thinks special that you guys do above and beyond that makes fs logics even more implementable and maintainable.

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Greg groberson@getnerdio.com: most definitely So if you look at fs logics soup to nuts, you have everything from adding your storage, as your files premium and getting that setup and joined to your domain, which.

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Greg groberson@getnerdio.com: We fully automate that in and make that simple, for your users, all the way to not only the standard fs logics deployment, but we also have implement implemented.

00:21:58.440 --> 00:22:07.950
Greg groberson@getnerdio.com: fs logics application masking configuration from directly inside of nerdy of itself with a little bit more of a simplified interface to that.

00:22:09.000 --> 00:22:15.780
Greg groberson@getnerdio.com: To allow those customers to hide applications on their images from certain users as needed.

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Andy Whiteside: Well, we didn't really talk about that at all that came up for lunch, as well as an APP layering technology, and you know it's not only APP layering it's asking, but still applicable, and so it sounds like nerdy oh recognizes the value of that add some functionality to it, make it easier.

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Andy Whiteside: Before we go further, the next actually the next topic is going to come back to what i'm going to talk about here um.

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Andy Whiteside: Is there a difference rob between the RDP that comes with like a you know, an RDS server these days and the RDP that comes out of add are they are they like or their special secret sauce going into the add.

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Robb Shaw: yeah great great question the initial kind of product line for the for the we call it kind of the side by side protocol because it's it's slightly different than your traditional RDP.

00:23:10.200 --> 00:23:15.390
Robb Shaw: Initially we went down the path of making it even tcp based instead of UDP base that.

00:23:16.110 --> 00:23:28.440
Robb Shaw: That was important for some things that had to happen, like we have something called reverse connect so that direct connections don't happen to your vm is in your APP so everything stays pristine and secure in the data Center.

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Robb Shaw: You know other things have kind of in some ways, regularity P stayed ahead because we had to go back to make RDP.

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Robb Shaw: kind of.

00:23:39.360 --> 00:23:46.290
Robb Shaw: completely secure from from the ground up and, as such, some things have kind of lump you know.

00:23:47.340 --> 00:23:54.210
Robb Shaw: been lagging that we've needed in the in the add sign and one of which you're probably just about to mention I guess.

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Andy Whiteside: Well, so I guess the answer your question is is the opposite of what I, my question is the opposite of what I thought were.

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Andy Whiteside: Add kind of as a leader and then you had to go back to you know the RDP that's that's been built into windows, for all these years, and now you're bringing that security features forward add performance.

00:24:11.490 --> 00:24:19.410
Robb Shaw: yeah yeah like take Take, for example, when we went to teach tcp a lot of our multimedia redirection will all of them.

00:24:19.950 --> 00:24:29.130
Robb Shaw: were based on the UDP kind of stack and so without that you know we kind of pulled the undercarriage out from underneath when we went into.

00:24:30.000 --> 00:24:40.650
Robb Shaw: Add web and and now you know, here we are just just announcing in that middle boss there, the fact that multimedia redirection as in public preview.

00:24:40.920 --> 00:24:50.700
Robb Shaw: And it's not the full blown multimedia redirection because that can mean a lot of different things, but in this case audio video kind of streaming gets redirected.

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Andy Whiteside: yeah I mean you basically covered it there Greg where does that fit into your world.

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Greg groberson@getnerdio.com: And for our it's the connection piece so it's it's a little outside of kind of what we do, but we certainly appreciate those enhancements because we hear them from customers as well to basketball Microsoft.

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Andy Whiteside: Well i'm glad you kind of set it that way, because in my world when I see, nor do I think about deploy manage maintain.

00:25:21.810 --> 00:25:31.320
Andy Whiteside: But when I see you know what microsoft's doing in tandem, which is around user experience you kind of get you know your chocolate in your peanut butter peanut butter and jelly whatever.

00:25:31.980 --> 00:25:42.900
Andy Whiteside: You want to use between both companies ones fixing and making the deployment management better meanwhile the others make it user experience better and between the two of them, you are attacking the need.

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Greg groberson@getnerdio.com: Absolutely.

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Andy Whiteside: Okay last one here from March and then we'll be done live captions with teams on as your virtual desktop now generally available rub live captions.

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Robb Shaw: Pretty pretty self explanatory right.

00:26:01.890 --> 00:26:07.380
Robb Shaw: You know, of course, Microsoft we're very focused on you know, providing.

00:26:08.850 --> 00:26:24.270
Robb Shaw: services into all of the solutions to help communicate for everybody and being able to do live captions so capturing audio in the session, you know you know re displaying that.

00:26:25.260 --> 00:26:37.470
Robb Shaw: Is a kind of a critical piece, so you know Jen generally available there will be there will be almost hundreds of various little pieces inside of teams that you'll see kind of.

00:26:37.620 --> 00:26:51.780
Robb Shaw: You know pop out, you know, depending on when the teams team does pieces that they add pieces that can can plug into it, you know, this is, this is one to make it, you know, try and bring it on par with the way the desktop APP works today.

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Andy Whiteside: So i'm really dunker I don't give me an example of what a cleans caption is.

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Robb Shaw: So, like you could caption you can pull in audio stream and display in his words right.

00:27:07.140 --> 00:27:22.680
Andy Whiteside: Oh okay yeah so it's the translation into Africa we call that but anyway so you're using a virtual desktop add virtual desktop and teams is being offloaded and we need to be able to grab the.

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Andy Whiteside: captions the.

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Bill Sutton: tech think of it think of it like closed captioning for teams meetings.

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Robb Shaw: yeah.

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Andy Whiteside: When it's being when it's being offloaded or not it doesn't matter.

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Robb Shaw: i'm a don't believe that it matters.

00:27:37.170 --> 00:27:45.120
Robb Shaw: You know you'll get you'll get a display you know that could be improved if it's redirected as well alright.

00:27:46.740 --> 00:27:52.890
Andy Whiteside: So Greg just another thing that microsoft's working on that you guys are going to benefit from is that as an audio AV deployment.

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Greg groberson@getnerdio.com: i'm only saw it'll bring additional value for sure across the entire spectrum of add users for sure.

00:28:02.700 --> 00:28:12.030
Andy Whiteside: And I was trying to explain to someone last week that you know it's not just Microsoft it's nerve to attack in the management and implementation challenges of add meanwhile you got Microsoft to.

00:28:12.390 --> 00:28:15.990
Andy Whiteside: Who wants to user experience to be good enough, where people adopt and they drive that.

00:28:16.770 --> 00:28:26.370
Andy Whiteside: drive that consumption and add you know if I go back to you know 12 years ago when rob I worked together my biggest competition was actually Microsoft because they really wanted a CCM deployment.

00:28:26.820 --> 00:28:35.310
Andy Whiteside: Solutions to work now there they seem to be all and fixing what needs to be fixed and add to make it near native experience, so that the adoption happens.

00:28:38.160 --> 00:28:47.100
Andy Whiteside: robber you we do does that story resonate with you the the old days of competing with Microsoft for virtual versus deployed now or now everybody's heading towards the virtual world.

00:28:47.400 --> 00:28:55.860
Robb Shaw: yeah absolutely you know, and I think you know a lot of a lot of times you know when you think about what it took to build an on Prem environment.

00:28:56.250 --> 00:29:05.250
Robb Shaw: of any kind of vdi but especially if you were going to try and build it native native Microsoft RDP without the benefit of a citrix.

00:29:05.850 --> 00:29:13.350
Robb Shaw: It was going to be a really, really monumental challenge, and you know, unless they were just a couple terminal servers with just a little bit.

00:29:14.070 --> 00:29:27.030
Robb Shaw: You know you saw very few usage without vendors, to improve it, I think, as we shift to cloud, and you think about all of that difficulty to build all that back end infrastructure goes away in a big fight.

00:29:27.570 --> 00:29:36.870
Robb Shaw: You know I don't have to worry about brokers or databases or load balancers or web front ends, or you know any of that right all that gets handled for me.

00:29:37.740 --> 00:29:42.750
Robb Shaw: And yet there's still some things that although the back end gets built.

00:29:43.410 --> 00:29:49.860
Robb Shaw: You still have to add, you know administrate it so there's still a learning curve there it just I think it just allows.

00:29:50.190 --> 00:29:59.400
Robb Shaw: companies to be more focused on their APP delivery and what their delivery in there, you know the robustness of that, as opposed to having to build the infrastructure yeah.

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Andy Whiteside: Well, normally ask people for their final word, but I think rob just gave us his that was that was good sorry of of what's happened and anything else, wrote.

00:30:08.190 --> 00:30:18.540
Robb Shaw: That, no, no, I I think I think you're right though it's that's The thing that I think folks are surprised at how fast, they can can deploy you know, in a cloud based environment.

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Andy Whiteside: I think the fact that it's cloud, I think the fact that they've got some helpers the fact that they've seen you know the years and years of other people fixing and changing and evolving stuff and they get to just jump in where they're jumping in.

00:30:29.970 --> 00:30:33.660
Andy Whiteside: I think that's that goes a long way towards the speed of adoption or speed of.

00:30:34.890 --> 00:30:44.310
Andy Whiteside: The increase in the microsoft's ability to come to market with this customer adoption and Greg anything else from this list or from an audio perspective you'd want to leave us.

00:30:44.970 --> 00:30:56.310
Greg groberson@getnerdio.com: So one added thing is to just recently released a or a version for auto update with our standard and a premium edition.

00:30:57.120 --> 00:31:04.500
Greg groberson@getnerdio.com: Providing some additional features and functionality on the premium side to make some additional things within add.

00:31:05.340 --> 00:31:21.570
Greg groberson@getnerdio.com: A lot easier in just kind of give you one you know one aspect of it we've built in some capability to help monitor and manage your log analytics workspace for those agents reporting back and setting your retention times your.

00:31:23.160 --> 00:31:39.030
Greg groberson@getnerdio.com: Your your counter times, as well as providing some interesting percentages of how how much data is being stored for each one of those so it's a new update and I look forward to getting that out in the market here in the coming months.

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Andy Whiteside: I think we did a webinar with the other day I don't know if we covered that or not, but certainly another maybe a webinar to cover all the for all the most recent announcements, for you guys.

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Greg groberson@getnerdio.com: yeah we didn't we did not, because it was not officially released.

00:31:56.790 --> 00:31:59.190
Andy Whiteside: All right, well then, we need to get one scheduled, that would be great.

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Greg groberson@getnerdio.com: We can do that.

00:32:02.010 --> 00:32:12.630
Andy Whiteside: Will sudden we covered a lot we kind of exploded you some some of it, I know you are listening, we talked about February, what anything in March, I think, overall, that you want to talk about our astronaut.

00:32:12.990 --> 00:32:14.400
Andy Whiteside: kind of two smart guys.

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Bill Sutton: yeah just kind of soaking it all in here Andy and you know all good stuff I.

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Bill Sutton: You know I been trying to get, as you know, up to speed, as I can, on add and built a couple of environments and certainly saw have seen the benefits of nerdy yo and haven't used it yet myself but.

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Bill Sutton: One of the benefits that the Greg spoke to is the ability to very easily create as your files and get them joined to the domain, when I did that.

00:32:39.180 --> 00:32:54.150
Bill Sutton: natively it was very cumbersome, a lot of power Shell things like that stuff that i'm not typically used to my my consultants are but not me so a lot of value in radio ads and it's great to see Microsoft continue to expand the capabilities of the Platform.

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Andy Whiteside: All right, well guys, I appreciate you jumping on we'll do it again in about a month and we'll talk about what happened in April.

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Andy Whiteside: Right enjoy your day.

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Robb Shaw: Thanks a lot everybody.

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Greg groberson@getnerdio.com: Thanks a lot.